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MJ
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Ruling please Reply with quote

I'm not sure the cardroom manager was correct here.

Two players in the pot and all the money goes in on the turn card. The board reads Ac Ad 3c 7c

The caller flips over Ah Kh and the original better throws his cards in the air onto the pot of chips which is situated beneath the board cards. It was obvious that he thought he could not win the hand, however on landing on the uneven chips one card turns over and it is the Kc. By this time the river card had been dealt making a four card flush so obviously the Kc on its own would have won the pot.

The remaining card was easily identifiable even though it was face down which was then turned over by the dealer.

All *bleep* breaks loose as the player who was obviously trying to muck his cards then says 'flush wins!' but the caller doesnt see it this way and argues that he mucked his hand...

What is the ruling?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guy with flush wins
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He shouldnt be allowed to play poker ever again if he doesnt realise he still has outs!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and cards speak......if they hadnt hit the muck that is

Flush wins
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cards speak but only if they havent touched the muck...dealer should have killed the hand by ensuring one card touches the muck BEFORE river was dealt..players can pass but cards should be killed if that is how they want to play
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Chaser wrote:
Cards speak but only if they havent touched the muck...dealer should have killed the hand by ensuring one card touches the muck BEFORE river was dealt..players can pass but cards should be killed if that is how they want to play

Er, wouldnt/shouldn't have dealt the river if he'd mucked the hand ...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flush usually gets paid in most cases.

cards always speak if they aint gone into the muck.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In theory river isnt dealt but this is cash game and rabbit hunts are commonplace
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