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swood Two Pair

Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 291 Location: relocated to 36 lol
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: do you call here? |
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playing my local £50 rebuy last week i found myself in this spot would you of called here ?
1st of all the guy i was playing is very aggressive esp in the blinds agaist me so i am looking for a spot to get it in against him and i think i have a good tell on him
ive got 26,000 chips he has 28,000 chips blinds 800,1600
everyone passes ( as usual on our blinds ) i find a J and make it up without the other card he raises 3200 i call still seeing 1 card i know i can get this guy
the flop comes 8 9 10 i check he bets 3200 i peak and find J 5 offsuit something in my gut tells me this guy has the 7 not a pair not a high card just a 7 prob 75 or simlar i decided because i put him on that hand no matter what comes other than a 7 or 5/4 im not passing this hand and flat call his bet i check the turn in the dark he bets in the dark turn is a K and i call i check the river in the dark river comes an A and he shoves now i have to stick my life on the line if my reads right it looks incredible if its wrong i look like a right numty i call he turns over 7-4 and i scoop a huge pot with J high
would any of you do that ? if you put the guy on a hand do you risk everything on that ? if i lost i wouldnt of really botherd because if i put someone on a hand and i can beat it all my chips are going in |
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JonThomson Royal Flush


Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 3247 Location: FTP
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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If you're going to FPS with jack-high, at least put in a raise somewhere rather than just stationing off your entire stack on a draw... donk flop, c/r flop, something, give him a chance to fold at some point.
And no, I don't do that, there's no way I can put him on precisely undercards. _________________ Jon Thomson
Pushing trash and rivering donkeys since 1982
"Expected Value is the term bad poker players use whenever they lose a big hand. The term comes from economics, and therefore it only exists in theory." |
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GiMac Royal Flush


Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 2681 Location: North East
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I think i push on turn and make him make the decision instead of you. _________________ www.gimacpoker.blogspot.com |
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The Underdog Four of a Kind


Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 1764 Location: University of Sheffield
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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yea....push on turn.....gives u the edge _________________ Fish by name, fish by nature
I'm not aggressive, im just on tilt!!! |
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DJam Straight


Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 960 Location: Madchestahh! (Said with an exaggerated Manc accent, even though I don't actually talk like that)
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| JonThomson wrote: | If you're going to FPS with jack-high, at least put in a raise somewhere rather than just stationing off your entire stack on a draw... donk flop, c/r flop, something, give him a chance to fold at some point.
And no, I don't do that, there's no way I can put him on precisely undercards. |
IF he puts him on a 7, and IF he puts him on complete air by the river, the ONLY hand he's losing to is Q7.
Takes a read of Herculean proportions, but if he's got what he puts him on, it's risky but should the board not help him he's getting ALL his chips by calling him down.
Basically this shouldn't even be in the ATE forum as it's nothing more than a brag post  _________________ Say to playing on tilt |
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Fury One Pair

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 223 Location: Sheffield & Grimsby
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| DJam wrote: | | JonThomson wrote: | If you're going to FPS with jack-high, at least put in a raise somewhere rather than just stationing off your entire stack on a draw... donk flop, c/r flop, something, give him a chance to fold at some point.
And no, I don't do that, there's no way I can put him on precisely undercards. |
IF he puts him on a 7, and IF he puts him on complete air by the river, the ONLY hand he's losing to is Q7.
Takes a read of Herculean proportions, but if he's got what he puts him on, it's risky but should the board not help him he's getting ALL his chips by calling him down.
Basically this shouldn't even be in the ATE forum as it's nothing more than a brag post  |
i know this is a late reply, but I agree with DJam, if u put him on 7 high, why didn't u reraise him before the river rather let him catch up on what was perceived to be his outs (J, 6, 4)??
There's also an argument that your opponent played the hand very well, if your opponent knew u had Jack high by the river, he would still push as he'd think that you surely couldn't call?? So there's always 2 sides to the story.
But yeah, it's great when u win one of these pots though, especially after your opponents trying to steamroll the table and gets caught with his pants down!! |
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HitTheHole Ace High

Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 29 Location: home
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| pass pre imo. limping in oop versus an aggro opponent with J5o seems abit pointless. If iv limped i check raise the flop prepared to call the shove. If you dont take it down on flop i shove the turn, making sure my bet sizes were ok, ie c/r his flop bet to 8400, shove the turn for 16k. your river call is lol - even if you know he's bluffing there alot of hands he will be turning into bluffs that are acually ahead of you. |
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Autobetkev Ace High

Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 48 Location: Leicester
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| So lets get this straight - you make up pre flop after seeing 1 card? You then call a raise STILL only seeing 1 card? At no point in the hand do you find out if the villain is actually beating J high. IMO you played the hand like a gambler? It's people like you that I find when I play 10 pound re-buys. You are obviously serious enough about the game to post a question on here, so why not be serious enough to play properly. You had 2 moves preflop, raise or fold. |
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DJam Straight


Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 960 Location: Madchestahh! (Said with an exaggerated Manc accent, even though I don't actually talk like that)
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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I'm guessing this was one of those rare occasions where playing completely unorthodox and risky based on an incredible read got paid off the maximum.
Basically a brad post, innit. Lol wp imo. _________________ Say to playing on tilt |
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barbara_johanssen Ace High

Joined: 25 Nov 2008 Posts: 10 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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push on turn is the best and easier option  |
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