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roscopiko
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Pre flop decision Reply with quote

POKERSTARS GAME #19439228577: TOURNAMENT #99190603, $10+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XXIII (6000/12000) - 2008/08/07 - 17:59:01 (ET)
Table '99190603 368' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: roscopiko (174844 in chips)
Seat 2: vinicharge (224043 in chips)
Seat 3: kick_butts6 (180463 in chips)
Seat 4: Harris1013 (200968 in chips)
Seat 5: franky bee42 (218164 in chips)
Seat 7: Bravro (183118 in chips)
Seat 8: joeshambles (380989 in chips)
Seat 9: goldgammon (60816 in chips)
roscopiko: posts the ante 1200
vinicharge: posts the ante 1200
kick_butts6: posts the ante 1200
Harris1013: posts the ante 1200
franky bee42: posts the ante 1200
Bravro: posts the ante 1200
joeshambles: posts the ante 1200
goldgammon: posts the ante 1200
kick_butts6: posts small blind 6000
Harris1013: posts big blind 12000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to roscopiko [Qs Ah]
franky bee42: folds
Bravro: folds
joeshambles: raises 24000 to 36000
goldgammon: folds

Down to the last 50 from 4000 of $10 MTT and been playing v tight as pretty card dead and just been climbing the ladder. On this table only shown AA and KK in the last 30 hands both pushed when down to about 10 BB and both called.

Little info on Villain.

What is your action here and why?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

id bang.....joe is probably using his stack....ie agression

If your playing to win, id even if needs be take a race here.....try n make final table chips. Late stages of a tourney, there is always one race you have to take to make the big $$$$
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate AQ here but like doggy says I would push as his range of hands will be high...dont forget the min he would put you on would be AQ so he may fold...you have to try and win a race
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate your M is 6.3 - therefore I push and cry when I lose to AK or better.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first instinct is to push, 64800 in the pot already is a big increase to your stack, he'd have to call about 140k into 240k which is not brilliant odds, certainly not an auto-call for him. as stated, he's the big stack and so probably has a wide enough range that he folds enough to make this a good spot to jam. don't think he calls anything that's worse than a flip though.
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roscopiko
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you know its not a happy ending from the fact its posted but I took the line that:

I have to play AQ at this stage,
if I push i am happy to race and happy just to take the pot

Result

roscopiko: raises 137644 to 173644 and is all-in
vinicharge: folds
kick_butts6: folds
Harris1013: folds
joeshambles: calls 137644
*** FLOP *** [4c 9s 10s]
*** TURN *** [9c]
*** RIVER *** [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
joeshambles: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Nines)
roscopiko: shows [Qs Ah] (a pair of Nines - lower kicker)
roscopiko said, "nh"
joeshambles collected 374888 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 374888 | Rake 0
Board [4c 9s Tc 9c Js]
Seat 1: roscopiko showed [Qs Ah] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 2: vinicharge (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kick_butts6 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Harris1013 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: franky bee42 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Bravro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: joeshambles showed [Ad Kd] and won (374888) with a pair of Nines
Seat 9: goldgammon folded before Flop (didn't bet)

The main reason for posting was I really hated the push after and considering the flop I can maybe get him off this hand if I call to push any flop.

Added to that I had made the same in the last 3 tourneys I had gone deep in and was eliminated in all.

Thanks for the feedback
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