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Mahound
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: opinions of this hand would be welcome please. Reply with quote

Final table of a 24 seat private £30 MTT Live tournament.
4 players left in
Me - 9500 chips. i have been agg pushing all in with several hands when any one has limped and i had position.
player 2 -12500 pushes hard when he has had a hand
player 3 -2600 waits for a hands,
player 4 -8200, usually comes in with a big raise
fairly tight play with a lot of ground skimmers.

Blinds 500 -1000
I am on the SB & get dealt KQh. player 3 folds, players 4 limps in, i raise to 3000, BB Folds. Players 4 calls.
Pot size - 7000
Flop is Jh, Td, 2c.
up and down straight draw for me
first to act so I go all in for the remainder of my chips- 6500
player 3 calls and is all in. he shows Ks-10d. for a pair of 10's, the turn is a 7 and the river is a 9 which makes me the straight.
I would like to think that i played this hand well, but the other player was quite upset about being beaten on the river, and was really going on about how badly i played it. Donkey bet was mentioned,
I tried to explain my reasons for going all in. but he just kept moaning about how much of a donkey i was.

Would like others opinion of this hand please.
was i the donkey he claimed i was?


I think that i have learned a lot by playing live and online in the last 2-3 years, I always try to make the right decision, and learn by reading the questions and topics that are posted on this site.

By the way went on to win the tournament.
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Tracy111
Two Pair
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have played it exactly the same..and you don't have to explain to anyone your reasons, if i get people calling me names i just lol Very Happy
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DJam
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Standard semibluff by you (plus you had overs which both could have been live).

Standard berating by him who can't stand to have been outdrawn. Fk him, imo, the classless **** Rolling Eyes
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Emma_Yeah
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

again would of played it the same.... question is he is calling 3k on k-10 ..
and your the donkey? Confused well played on the win! Very Happy
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Ascot
Two Pair
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just agree with him - after all, him calling for all his chips with second pair WAS the professional move, eh? Laughing
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JonThomson
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd just shove over the limp pre personally, as played i'm shoving what's likely got a zillion outs if called
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Staticman
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody played that hand terribly and it wasn't you.
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Mahound
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Thanks all Reply with quote

thought i played it ok.
I always try to get in with either the best hand or at least with lots of outs and a good price. Knew that if i lost i would be juxt about cripples and that if won i would be in a good position to take it down.
Its never my intention to inflict bad beats as that means i didn't play the hand well and underestimated the opposition.
But i do accept that they happen both for me and against me.

cheers peeps
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JonThomson
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, important question, how many places are paid? if we're not in the money i'd probably muck pre, but i guess it paid 4-5?
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Mahound
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: places Paid Reply with quote

it paid out 5 places
1-£210
2-£100
2-£80
4-£60
5-£40

the remainder of the money is kept by the club and is used to fund a freeroll at xmas, for all the players
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JonThomson
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok. it made a difference if it paid three, then i'd wait for the shortstack to bust
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